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Old 06-06-2013, 03:19 PM   #1
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I always had a home made trailer plate that I swapped around to whatever trailer I needed. Not so good....if you have a homemade trailer plate on a trailer that has a vin or a mfg name number on it the popo can confiscate your trailer and whatever is on it. I just went thru all the bs of getting the correct registration for a boat trailer I had never registered . Be careful...
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:20 PM   #2
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Yea that's a big no no! Y I'm not really sure I've heard several reasons
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I've had people tell me to do that but I've always been too scared to try to get away with it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:38 PM   #4
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I went through the same thing a while back. Trailer got confiscated, the original manufacture "forgot" to stamp is with a serial number. So the sheriffs department thought it was stolen until they were able to get him on the phone and he verified that he made it. Then I had to drag the trailer 3 hours back to his shop to get a serial stamped in it, and take it back to the sheriffs department to get it approved.

I learned the hard way....
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:42 PM   #5
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We had one license plate for 4 or 5 trailers. We just swapped it over to whatever we were pulling that day.

If we had to use two trailers at the same time, we drew straws to see who got to use the plate.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:47 PM   #6
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We had one license plate for 4 or 5 trailers. We just swapped it over to whatever we were pulling that day.

If we had to use two trailers at the same time, we drew straws to see who got to use the plate.
LOL !!! Sounds like me and my father-in-law. Guess we would be better off going to the tax office and just getting them registered...but that would take all the fun out of it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 03:48 PM   #7
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What does it take to get a trailer registured that hasnt been?
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Got pulled over the other day with a farm trailer tag on my boat trailer, told the popo I had a crawfish farm. He believed me, he was from Harris County.
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Got pulled over the other day with a farm trailer tag on my boat trailer, told the popo I had a crawfish farm. He believed me, he was from Harris County.
Now that's funny right there
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:18 PM   #10
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What does it take to get a trailer registured that hasnt been?
Depends on what county you live in. Some require you to go to the tag office and tell them you have a shop built trailer you want to get registered Farm Use. They ask you what axles you have underneath it, give them 6 bucks and you walk of 10 mins later with a new tag.

Other counties require a bunch of BS on the same trailer like taking it to have it weighed from someone with certified scales, pay someone who works for the tag office 15 bucks to inspect it (must have tires that say For Trailer Use Only, lights, fenders, safety chains, etc), sending the info off and waiting 3 months to get a title and serial number plate, then you can go get it registered.

Now, say you live in the second county I mention, you get a friend or a family member who lives in the first county to register it, then take the paper work to your tag office when the registration runs out and tell them you just bought this from whoever and need to get it registered in your name, you get it registered without all the hassle.
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:19 PM   #11
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dang, never thought of that. I have been pulled over in floresville with dealer tags on a boat trailer coming back from the coast (customer demo and a little bit of fishing). Dps told me I was awful far away from the dealership for a demo. Showed him my business card and everything, still gave me a hard time. Aint my fault customer wanted to meet at the coast. Kinda stupid cause we have demos and boat shows all the time.
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:26 PM   #12
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We and most other auto theft task force agencies only seize if the VIN has been altered/obliterated/missing and the trailer is in fact a manufactured trailer. If the VIN if still on the trailer why would they seize it, they can check for stolen via computer.

We conduct 68A inspections so guys like the above can get a trailer registered correctly. Call your local Auto Theft Task Force (17 across the state and ask for a 68A inspection).
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Got to pay the taxman.

If plates do not match the trailer, it might be stolen... in addition to not paying your taxes/registration.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:03 PM   #14
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Depends on what county you live in. Some require you to go to the tag office and tell them you have a shop built trailer you want to get registered Farm Use. They ask you what axles you have underneath it, give them 6 bucks and you walk of 10 mins later with a new tag.

Other counties require a bunch of BS on the same trailer like taking it to have it weighed from someone with certified scales, pay someone who works for the tag office 15 bucks to inspect it (must have tires that say For Trailer Use Only, lights, fenders, safety chains, etc), sending the info off and waiting 3 months to get a title and serial number plate, then you can go get it registered.

Now, say you live in the second county I mention, you get a friend or a family member who lives in the first county to register it, then take the paper work to your tag office when the registration runs out and tell them you just bought this from whoever and need to get it registered in your name, you get it registered without all the hassle.
Yup I'm jumping through all those hoops right now trying to get an old stock trailer that hasn't been registered since the 80s and the owner we bought it from never registered it. So now we are trying to contact the original owner and as of today no luck.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:12 PM   #15
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Won a trailer from Maxey last year and tried to do it legally and it still was a nightmare because of the Nazis clerks that work at our court house.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:22 PM   #16
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I brought my trailer from Oklahoma where they don't register them and tried to get a tag here, what a nightmare. Went with homemade tag, there was a VIN at some point but can't see it, all faded out.
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:41 PM   #17
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same here, I bought a car hauler from a guy out of florida. He gave me a "certificate of ownership" original reciept from the manufacture, has no serial numbers.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:47 PM   #18
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If the trailer is over 4000 lbs then its a lot bigger deal. Best thing if it has a number is to call tax office and see if its ever been registered. If not, then the task force can inspect and issue a reassignment of title deal and your home free. If it has been registered then you have to go back to original owner and figure it out....if they are still alive!!!!
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:59 PM   #19
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Yea that's a big no no! Y I'm not really sure I've heard several reasons
why, because it makes it easy for people to steal trailers....
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:56 PM   #20
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I learned the hard way so if I buy a trailer of any sort it's got to be registered and titled. Even if its a cheap price.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #21
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I can say from experience be very careful. I had a trailer that the sticker wore off due to the trailer being 20 years old. Took it to get inspected and the trailer was seized. Had a bill of sale and traced the trailer through all owners to a deceased man and was still Tom the county was going to keep my trailer. I had to speak it to a higher court before getting my trailer back. Certain counties are REAL bad about their letter of the law.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:21 PM   #22
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Interesting. I have a home made trailer with parts off a wrecked factory trailer. I know it doesn't have a serial #, but, you can see where it used to say "Sportsman" on the fenders. I better be careful.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:24 PM   #23
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Yeah, how are the going to prove my trailer isn't homemade? Every trailer I own, I have built, but every one of them used some parts off of a manufactured trailer. Some you can tell are custom jobs, and some look pretty professional if you ask me, and I did build them.
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I can say from experience be very careful. I had a trailer that the sticker wore off due to the trailer being 20 years old. Took it to get inspected and the trailer was seized. Had a bill of sale and traced the trailer through all owners to a deceased man and was still Tom the county was going to keep my trailer. I had to speak it to a higher court before getting my trailer back. Certain counties are REAL bad about their letter of the law.
What a bummer, trying to do the right thing and get hassled. My trailer is old and there is no way possible to know what the serial number was so I guess the county can just take it if they want.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:11 PM   #25
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The last time I hauled my old travel trailer to the lease I just went to the tax office and got a $5 two week tag. I think it's called a destination tag or something? Trailer hasn't been registered in YEARS!
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:28 PM   #26
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all I did on my homemade trailer was use a set of number stamps to put a number on it and then get it registered with a serial number. no big deal.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #27
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I've been warned twice,in Brownwood..The 2nd time he ran my record,and said"you were warned for this very same liscence plate 6mos.ago...I got a real one after that.They keep records,and can look up anything nowadays.
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Old 06-07-2013, 10:55 AM   #28
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I have a manufactured trailer I bought from a buddy when I lived in MS. I had a title to it but after several moves I have lost it. It has MS tags on it right now but they expired back in Dec. How can I go about getting it tagged?
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:50 AM   #29
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So what is the reasoning for running the trailer plate in the first place ? Speeding ? Lights ? Overloaded ? Looks like a regular plate. An officer would not know if it was a home made tag unless it was ran thru the system.
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:37 PM   #30
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Because they are a highly sought item by thieves.
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So what is the reasoning for running the trailer plate in the first place ? Speeding ? Lights ? Overloaded ? Looks like a regular plate. An officer would not know if it was a home made tag unless it was ran thru the system.

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Because they are a highly sought item by thieves.
And there you go.

I have recovered several stolen trailers and several stolen items from other trailers that were not stolen.

If you steal anything bigger than you can carry in your arms, you have to transport it somehow.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:47 PM   #32
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as much as I hate to admit, well I guess it really dosent bother me. I have been using the same "home made" plate since 1995. I have two boats and a car hauler. Neither boat trailer has any vin identification on them and the car hauler did not have a title/ tag either. Guess Ive just been lucky. Of course they either have a tractor or boat on them when pulling. I just dont see why a cop would pull up behind me while not breaking any laws and run my plate....althought Im sure they do it all the time obviously. Confiscate ? Id be hot ! I guess its just one of those guilty till proven otherwise bs situations.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:16 PM   #33
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Well they'll be all kinds of confused when they check my trailer out, it used to be a travel trailer, tore it all apart and built a 16ft lowboy out of it, so is it home made or factory
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I have a trailer that was a Studebaker pickup bed it's tagged as homemade. I don't have a title to that halve of the truck.
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I have been using the same "home made" plate since 1995. I have two boats and a car hauler. I just dont see why a cop would pull up behind me while not breaking any laws and run my plate....
See any problems with this?
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The officer told me that there is a big push in Texas to check trailers because its been so jacked up for years. So he said they run the plates on lots of trailers and if it comes up homemade and doesn't look like it.....woo woo ....your pulled over. If it doesn't match up they seize it all
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as much as I hate to admit, well I guess it really dosent bother me. I have been using the same "home made" plate since 1995. I have two boats and a car hauler. Neither boat trailer has any vin identification on them and the car hauler did not have a title/ tag either. Guess Ive just been lucky. Of course they either have a tractor or boat on them when pulling. I just dont see why a cop would pull up behind me while not breaking any laws and run my plate....althought Im sure they do it all the time obviously. Confiscate ? Id be hot ! I guess its just one of those guilty till proven otherwise bs situations.
Maybe I am reading this wrong but are you illegally using a plate on several different trailers that have no identification numbers? And if so, you would be hot if caught and your property seized?

In any case, these are some laws that may apply.

In the Code of Criminal Procedure, Article 18.16 it says....

Any person has a right to prevent the consequences of theft by seizing any personal property that has been stolen and bringing it, with the person suspected of committing the theft, if that person can be taken, before a magistrate for examination, or delivering the property and the person suspected of committing the theft to a peace officer for that purpose. To justify a seizure under this article, there must be reasonable ground to believe the property is stolen, and the seizure must be openly made and the proceedings had without delay.


The CCP gives anyone the right to seize property with a "reasonable ground" to believe that it is stolen. If an officer comes across a trailer with no identifying marks or serial numbers and a plate that can't be traced to that trailer (especially a very old one), he might just have reasonable grounds to believe that it is stolen.

Then if that property is seized, the CCP gives this.......

Art. 47.01. SUBJECT TO ORDER OF COURT. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), an officer who comes into custody of property alleged to have been stolen shall hold it subject to the order of the proper court only if the ownership of the property is contested or disputed.
(b) An officer who comes into custody of property governed by Chapter 371, Finance Code, that is alleged to have been stolen shall hold the property subject to the order of the proper court regardless of whether the ownership of the property is contested or disputed.



So when an officer comes into custody of possible stolen property and it is contested, the claimed owner can have a court determine ownership.

It sure seems a lot easier to simply get the proper plate to each trailer but to each his own.
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What do a lot of these stories have in common???
Guilty until proven innocent...
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:03 PM   #39
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All I was saying when I started this post was "be informed" I didn't want to get stopped for so,etching I could have prevented and maybe I had been fishing all day and maybe I had a beer or 3 and the s*** just goes south from there. Know what I mean?
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Yep, know what ya mean.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:41 PM   #41
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Now they ask you the color the trailer.
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google is your friend: http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/buyin...hicle/trailers. The regulations are different depending on gross weight, trailer type (semi/full), how you want to register it, etc.

I just went through this in Williamson cnty this week. Instructions are here: http://www.wilco.org/Portals/0/Depar...208%202012.pdf. It was a trailer I obtained in very bad shape several years ago. I put 6800 lb axles under it, sandblasted it, painted it, wired it, did a bunch of welding & straightening, etc. Basically made a good trailer out of it again. I wanted farm plates for 13,600# gross weight.

1) You have to get it weighed empty. There are scales at some truckstops and elevators. This cost me $4.

2) You have to find a LEO to do a VIN inspection. This is NOT a safety inspection, he just looks for the VIN, verifies there is none, ask a few questions to determine if you stole it, checks your weigh slip, and if he's happy with it he'll give you a form VTR-68-A. My county has one cop from the auto theft dept that does this 2 hours a week. They didn't charge me but other counties may.

3) Go to a DMV office. There are about a dozen DMV offices scattered around the state and are listed on the back of form VTR-68-A. You don't need to take your trailer along but they will need a color picture of it. They will assign you a VIN number. Cost was $2. They don't give you a metal plate with the VIN; you have to stamp or weld the number on yourself.

4) Go to your county tax assessor/collector to get it titled and a plate. In my case the title was optional but it was only $33 and I just felt better having a title. Who knows if they'll change the regs down the road... You'll fill out form 130-U (application for title). If you're doing farm tags you'll also fill out VTR-52-A and need your AG card.

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* No state inspection was required because it's a farm trailer under 34,000#.
* They never questioned the gross weight although 13,600# for an 18' utility trailer is pushing it.
* I didn't bother getting temp tags for the trip to the scale and VIN inspection. Trailer was empty and I was carrying the instructions above with me in case JohnnyLaw stopped me.
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copied, pasted and printed. good deal mills650
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